Gold Rush - Archers Roll

[00:00:14] What is up guys? Welcome to Gold Rush. I am your host Neil Barrett. I am here once again joined by Jackson VanVlake. What is going on Jackson? How you feeling today? Man, I'm feeling great. What a second night of the cross. It was very good. Very good for sure. First things first. Your first appearance on the pod was yesterday.

[00:00:42] Did you enjoy it? Did anybody listen to it, hear it? Not yet. I was telling some people about it and they're like, oh, I'm gonna have to go check that out. So hopefully we can kind of steer some traffic this way. Did you get a decent amount of sleep? Probably not a full night, but a decent amount? Yeah, enough. We're starting a little earlier tonight. Hopefully we'll make it on time tonight.

[00:01:12] Let's go. For anyone listening, obviously you're not a part of the recording. We record these immediately after the games. It take a few minutes to kind of gather our thoughts, but then go right into recording them. So it is currently 1052 Eastern time. And last night, like Jackson said, we were even a little bit later than that. And then I had such so much trouble getting this, the video and everything processed.

[00:01:41] My computer crashed like twice trying to do it. So I was up until about 3am last night. And ultimately I got the MP3 version up. So I was able to get it up onto Spotify by about three o'clock this morning. But, um, but the YouTube video didn't go, I was like, I'm exhausted. I went and laid down for about two hours and then my wife got up for work. Um, cause she has to get up really early in the morning about 5am to do the newspaper.

[00:02:11] And so when she got up, I got up real quick, came in here by then had finally finished processing and I was able to get it all uploaded and then had to go back to bed. So I am, I have been struggling a little bit. This right here, when you see me drinking, it is actually a pre-workout just to keep me awake long enough to get through. Yeah, I'm winding down. I'll be drinking a little bit of water here and there. And, uh, and it'll be, it'll be pretty quick after we wrap tonight.

[00:02:39] Yes. I w I would, I would not suggest anyone go this route, but I thought, you know what, I, I want to get through this and then hopefully I can, I'll probably go and pass on. I am pretty much exhausted. So, uh, let's, let's get into the games. Um, first up, we had the archers beating the Boston cannons, the returning, uh,

[00:03:04] championship series champions, uh, 29 to 21. Uh, what were you kind of thoughts overall about that game? You know, from the, from the start. Yeah. So, I mean, obviously the archers jumped out pretty early on them. Uh, I think it was eight, two at one point. Um, and then the first quarter ended maybe 10, nine or nine, eight. I think it was 10, seven. I think is what it was. Okay. Um, but still,

[00:03:34] you know, really intense first quarter, um, obviously for Bo Pedersen to score that first goal. Um, they, they announced a starting six or whatever. And I don't know if that was the six that trotted out there, but it was all defensive guys. It was all four, you know, you know, the three D mids and Woodward. And then I think Ogaben was, was the fifth one, obviously the, the goalie, um, was shoot a,

[00:03:59] um, but you know, kind of mucked around the face off and then, you know, Pedersen was kind of in the right place, right time. And, and that was just kind of the theme for the archers. Uh, I mean, if you look at it, all, all of the defensive guys had all their field players had a point. Um, Piper Bond had a hat trick, uh, but Pedersen had four points on two and two. Uh, it looks like Woodward had one

[00:04:23] and one and Mara had an assist. So, um, no, I'm sorry. Mara had a goal. Um, so that was just the theme of the night was the archers defense changed that game. And coach Bates was very vocal about that. He said, the defense is leading them in a lot of the archer social posts. It looked like Piper Bond was kind of taking a more of a vocal lead and a lot of different things. He was breaking down huddles. They, they had a kind of a little segment with him before the game talking about

[00:04:50] how they wanted to have an emphasis on defense and it worked. I mean, if you look at the stats, obviously Asher Nolting is going to get his yet eight points tonight. Um, but the biggest thing for me, at least Matt Campbell, one assist, I mean, a trendy pick to win the golden stick held to no scoring points. Yeah. Um, and so obviously, and coach Bates talked about it post game.

[00:05:17] They kind of liked the addition of the extra timeouts per half, um, because it allowed them to take their whole defense and put them on the field. You know, obviously the cannons are getting their offense ready. Asher's out there, Marcus is out there. And so Pedersen's matching up with, um, with Asher. And then it looked like most of the night Woodward and, um, and Bond were kind of

[00:05:43] flip-flopping on Campbell and Holman. Um, but they were, they had a plan and something that I saw interesting from them too was on a man down, they were still pressing out and almost leaving a guy open, hoping that was shoot. It could jump a pass to, um, the free guy. And it, it seemed to work pretty well for them. So, I mean, I thought it was, I thought it was a great game. Uh, I put out a tweet

[00:06:12] that said, I was talking to Joe Keegs, um, and you know, last year it looked like, I mean, why, why would you not run a, run a team of 10 offensive minded players and two goalies? That is not the case anymore. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, I thought it, I thought it was interesting cause I, I saw that tweet and even, uh, even kind of commented on it. Um, you know, I thought we had

[00:06:41] this, this battle for the soul of sixes back at the world games in 2022 when Canada just obliterated us by just, by just going kind of all in on the offensive end and, and just blew the U S out of the water. Um, and the U S roster was, was comprised of a lot of, of kind of two way guys. And I, and I, I said that in response to your tweet and Joe Keegan kind of pushed back a little bit on the idea that,

[00:07:10] that this, these were two way guys, but, but in the, in the aspect of thinking about it through sixes, I get a lot of these guys are defensive guys in field, but in the, the aspect of thinking of this, um, as sixes in my mind, they're two way guys. If, if you're getting offensive production out of Connor Marr, out of, you know, Piper bond out of Bo Pedersen, uh, but Pedersen had that one.

[00:07:39] The, the announcer thought it was, was Mac O'Keefe. Cause he, he looked like Mac O'Keefe out there drove to the net and scored a goal. And, and it wasn't until after the goal went in and he had called him Mac O'Keefe several times that he realized, Oh, that's not seven. That's 77. Um, and so Woodward Pedersen is 89. So that may have, that was a different thing. Cause I think that was a different play where, I mean, cause the whole archers team was comfortable

[00:08:07] staying down on the office. Right. And I remember what you're talking about where they were on the right hand side and Woodward is on the right wing there and trying to get out to the right. And it's a move that admittedly looks like what Mac O'Keefe does when he is trying to dodge, he kind of sticks that stick way out to the side, but that was, that was Mason Woodward.

[00:08:31] Right. Right. Who's, who's a, who's a pole. But, but all that to say, like, you know, if you're going to, if you're going to get this level of offensive production out of defensive guys, I think they're two way guys at that point. Well, I mean, Piper Vaughn was almost running like a point guard thing. He was bringing the ball down. Right. I mean, regularly let's, let's see

[00:08:55] on the touches here. He only had 18. But I mean, it looked like he was kind of leading the break and maybe that was something to kind of settle into a little bit of a tempo thing where, you know, he's not your first option to drive at the goal and take a shot. And I mean, he really should have had four goals tonight. The one at the end of the second or the end of the second quarter going into

[00:09:19] halftime, he usually cans those. I mean, he, he's very conscious about kind of sweeping into the middle and opening up his shooting lane and he just hit a pole or hit a pipe and, you know, and, and missed one. But yeah, they, they, they had it all going, going for him tonight. I think the biggest thing that everybody else was pointing out was that the cannons only made two, two pointers

[00:09:47] and they really, I think they said they only shot five, which that's kind of been a hallmark of their game. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. With that, with that whole roster, like, yeah. Why, why wouldn't you? Um, yeah, no, I know. Yeah. Holman had one and Asher had one. Um, I don't know if I can. They took six is what they took six. Yeah. Um, so yeah, no, it's, it, it was

[00:10:17] part of that though. You know, it feels like we're shooting was, was seeing the ball while he was making the saves. Uh, you know, I don't know that he may, I don't know. We talked last night about Liam Intamin making the saves that you're supposed to make and then sealing a few. I don't know that he got to that, although I don't know that he was really asked to do that. Um, he was at, he was at about 42%. We, we talked yesterday again, kind of the, the six is averages is right about

[00:10:45] 40%. So slightly above average. He had a, he had a solid night. Conversely, Colin cursed on the other end at 31%. Uh, you know, part of that I think was, was him getting peppered, him getting a bit hung out to dry. Um, the, the defense not doing a ton in front of him. Um, and then some of it was probably just, you know, him not seeing the ball as, as well, especially, especially, you know, like you said,

[00:11:12] they, they jumped on them early. I, I, I, I'm pretty sure it was seven, one, and then eight, two, uh, before, before Boston kind of was able to get some, something going, uh, later in that first quarter. Um, but you know, when it's, when it's eight goals and, and the first kind of five minutes of the first quarter, like it's probably going to be a rough night for you. You know, that that's not

[00:11:36] something easily to, to move out of. Um, so yeah, like you said, it, it felt like the cannons were pulled out of their game a bit and, and just kind of everything that archers did was, was kind of turning to gold, like even, even the bounces. And I think a lot of times, you know, we don't, we kind of overstate luck. I think a lot of times you, you make your own luck.

[00:12:05] You, you put yourselves in the right places where bounces go your way, you know, garbage goal, you know, goals around the crease and stuff come because you have guys in the right places and, and the ball comes to them. The ball finds them as we, as we might say. So, you know, a lot of that is, is him, is the archers, you know, doing the things that they do, but also everything they did

[00:12:34] just kind of seemed to work. Yeah. And I think the game plan that looked like was to make Asher be a scorer as opposed to a feeder. Um, and you know, it looked like they, they, they definitely trusted, you know, bow on that one-on-one matchup. They weren't super ready to slide to them because once you slide to Asher, you're leaving somebody open and, and with the guys that they have on that team, they're open for a two-pointer and, and they're going to shoot it pretty well.

[00:13:02] Yeah. Yeah. That was what the water dogs did to the cannons last year was, was just leave Asher alone. Don't slide. Don't help. If he, if he, if he scores eight goals, he scores eight goals, but he's so much more dangerous when he can score goals and get other people involved that just making him that, that one-dimensional scorer seems to be the thing. Obviously it didn't work for the water dogs

[00:13:30] in the championship game. Uh, it is still a roll of the dice because Asher Nolting is still Asher Nolting, but, uh, it is, it does seem to be the most successful tactic. And when you can pull it off, it does, it, it derails, uh, the water dogs played twice, both games. They did not make any effort to,

[00:13:54] to slide to help, uh, on, on Asher's, uh, matchup. And it worked very well in the, the round robin play game. It did not work as well in the championship, which is why the cannons won. So worked really well round robin play today. If there's another matchup later, we'll see what happens. Um, you know, I, I, I'm not going to suggest that this game is reflective of where these

[00:14:23] two teams necessarily sit. Um, but, uh, you know, like we talked, like I said yesterday, you can only play the team that's in front of you. And today they played them and played them very well. Um, and the, and the little slip pick action with Mac O'Keefe was working all day. I mean, if he, he had two goals that if his foot was a foot, you know, a foot back behind the line,

[00:14:51] I mean, he goes from the kids six or 7.7, 7.7 to nine. I mean, he was a foot over the line twice. Right. So that, you know, I guess that's out in the open now, so we can say it, but, um, somebody's going to have to stop that. If anybody's going to have a chance to stop the archer. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I, I talked yesterday at length about my, my, my doubt for Mac O'Keefe

[00:15:20] was that I think Mac O'Keefe, like I said, obviously he can shoot, obviously he can create a shot. Um, but that I felt like he was, he was at his most deadly when you didn't know how he was going to play, whether, whether he was going to be kind of a post up shooter, you know, off ball guy, uh, pass and shoot, uh, or I guess catch and shoot. Um, and still was capable of, you know, taking a

[00:15:49] one-on-one matchup and creating a space and getting a shot. And then I was worried that without Grant, a meant that, that his production might, might drop a little bit. Uh, clearly that was not the case today. Uh, he was, he was all over the field doing, um, kind of, kind of whatever he wanted. Uh, so that was clearly an unfounded thing. I've rolled up my hands and say I was wrong. And I,

[00:16:16] I said, I would do that. I said, I would do that. If Mac O'Keefe goes out there and does it, um, I, I would say your prediction for, for him winning the golden stick, uh, certainly after day one, you know, or, or game one, I guess, uh, certainly still looks, looks pretty good. I, I thought, uh, along with, with Mac O'Keefe, Matt Moore almost quietly had, uh, certainly compared to,

[00:16:46] to what Mac O'Keefe, Mac O'Keefe was, was kind of the, the attention grabber, but Matt Moore had seven points too, you know, uh, he's, he's playing the game that we've always thought he could play in sixes. The last few years. And I love Matt. I've got a crazy Jersey amount of Matt. I've talked to Matt several times a person. He's wonderful. He has not played like we thought he could be. He has not played up to his potential the last two years and sixes. And if he keeps playing

[00:17:14] like this, the archers are going to be a very dangerous team because I mean, the one, two, two point that he shot, I can't remember if maybe it was in the third quarter. I mean, it was just casual. I mean, it looked like he went to the Mac O'Keefe school of shooting. I mean, just, and it was crazy. It went right over curse head. I mean, and I don't know, I don't, can you put spin on lacrosse ball? Because he was, I mean, almost like a check swing

[00:17:39] on a curve ball. I mean, it was unreal how smooth and well-placed that shot was. Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, I, I wrote, uh, to, to your point, I think coming in, he was a little bit under the radar because he has not performed up to maybe what we thought he would do in sixes in the previous years. So I don't know that he was drawing a lot of, you know, kind of headline attention

[00:18:07] coming into it. Uh, but I, I wrote Matt Moore is who we thought he should be. You know, like I, I talked yesterday about how I think Miles Jones's game is built for sixes. And I think Matt Moore is another one of those guys that like his game is built for sixes. And tonight he really, he really showed that. I thought he was, he was doing so much. And the other thing about Matt Moore is

[00:18:37] we talked about the idea of a two-way player. And I'm not saying that Matt Moore is a two-way player, but on a sixes field, when he gets stuck on defense, you're not worried about that. I think, I think in a lot of ways, Miles Jones is a bit of a defensive liability. Um, when, when he's on that defensive end, you're kind of like, ah, crap. Like, you know, he just can't, he can't hang that

[00:19:03] defensive end. You, you don't think that about Matt Moore. Like he can, he can, he can put together enough on the defensive end. Yes, exactly. He may, he may not cause the turnover. He may not do anything, but, but he's going to do enough that like, you're not worried about him getting stuck down there. So, so yeah, I, uh, again, a little bit more quietly, I think than, than Mac O'Keefe, but certainly, certainly did everything well and at a high level and proved that he should,

[00:19:31] uh, that his game is, is built for this. And again, it's, it's one game. We'll see what happens over the next couple of weeks, but I mean, next week, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I'm interested to see. So obviously the, this year, the teams were allowed to bring 13 guys on the roster. Um, we're dressing 12. Um, so obviously direct trainer with, uh, the cannons has some sort of lower body injury. He would have been obviously a difference maker. He, he shoots the two while he runs in

[00:20:00] transition. Um, so I'm interested to see if he gets back, um, you know, what kind of impact that has on their game plan. Also, I mean, I didn't realize it until probably halfway through the game. Jack Van Oberbeek didn't dress for the archers tonight. Oh yeah. And I thought that he would be awesome in this format. Um, so hopefully we'll get to see him. I personally was not impressed with Jackson

[00:20:27] morals game tonight. At times he looked a little bit lost out there. Yeah. Um, he got to the middle one time from, from three yards out and missed the cage. Yeah. I remember that third, somewhere in the third, I think it was. Yeah. Yeah. Did a half decent job getting to the middle of the field and then just, just by a, by a margin, like he didn't, he didn't just like, you know, get just wide of the

[00:20:54] post. He, he kind of shanked it almost. Uh, yeah, no, that was, that was weird. And, and you know, we're on this show. We're not, we're not going to see the fruits of this. Uh, I was, uh, sort of like you said, when, when that move happened and he, he came to the archers, I thought, oh, this,

[00:21:16] this could be good. I, I have liked Jackson moral, um, in the past, but you know, now like it starts to worry me when, when you've been bounced around a few teams and, and now you're, you look like this on, on a sixes roster where you would, you would imagine a guy like Jackson moral would, you know, maybe, maybe he's not going to put up eight points, I guess, or nothing, but he's going

[00:21:40] to, he's going to play and, and put up some, some decent numbers. And, and like you said, you just watch him and you're like, something doesn't look right. It doesn't feel right. So it may be still not being used to the team. And that would be an area that, that Van Overbeek would, would have a little bit of an advantage. Um, so, so obviously I'm not there at training camp. Um, so somebody must've saw something that they liked better from Jackson than, than Jack,

[00:22:09] you know, the first day, but, uh, I'll be interested to see if he, if he dresses on, on the next one. Yeah. Yeah. That will, in the immediate thing is, is kind of where they, they move with those two. My, my thought was a little bit more long-term, you know, when we head into the regular season, what, what happens, what, what moves are made. Um, before, before we get off

[00:22:33] of the, the PLL, um, game between the archers and the cannons, I read just kind of before we hopped on that, uh, this was the, there have been five teams that have scored 29 or more points in a sixes game. This is the first time that one of those teams was not the 2023 Atlas. Um, that is, that is crazy to

[00:23:03] think about how, how, how much the Atlas were running through that 2023, uh, championship series. Yeah. And it was the third most goals in a half in the first half, um, with 18, I think the record's 23 and there might've been a 20 or 21 in there. Yeah. It sounds right. 18 was, was the third most in the first half. So, um, all signs are pointing to, to good things for the archers. So yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:31] Woman will have to be ready to go on the next round though. So it'll be interesting. And thinking about it tonight, that first round by or the, the buy into the championship is going to be massive. Yeah. You know, you get an extra day's rest, then you've got a team, you know, a playoff game the day before. So, you know, you can imagine all that comes with that. Yeah. Cause, cause everyone is going to play Saturday. Semifinal teams are going to play Sunday and then Monday is the championship.

[00:24:01] So that's, that's three games in three days when you, when, you know, you're going to start playing every other day and then go into when you're already kind of tired and it's, you've already played three games and then you're going to play three games, you know, back to back to back. So yeah, I I'm with you. I think, I think having that, that first round by is going to be huge. And at least as of right now, it looks likely that, that it's going to come down to Atlas archers.

[00:24:29] Yep. So, um, anyway, uh, great, great game, I guess. Yeah. Awesome. Uh, let's move into the WLL game again, just, just like with all of them, let's start big picture. What were your, what were your thoughts about the, the, the WLL game tonight? It seemed very similar to the game last night where it, not that it was slow or anything before, but

[00:24:57] man, the fourth quarter and really the back half of the fourth quarter, I mean, it was just up and down action, you know, had you on the edge of your seat. And, um, and a big thing for me was I felt like the palms were, were getting out a little bit earlier. There was a lot of times where they would have a, you know, a player across the midline and the guards, you know, next closest player would be

[00:25:27] three steps behind her. Yeah. I mean, so that may be an area where, you know, we see that game evolve a little bit more where, you know, if, if you're the furthest one from the shot, you're kind of leaking a little bit more. And obviously you don't want to plan on giving up a goal, but you kind of want to have a backup plan if it's something like that happens. And, um, man, the captains of those

[00:25:51] two teams just went back and forth and, um, it sounded like on that last play for, for Masteroni. I mean, it was just, it, it, it didn't sound like they wanted her to take the shot and she just saw lane and, and drove and took it. I mean, it was just kind of put the team on your back and go. Yeah. It was awesome. I tweeted that, that Allie looked like, like, uh, prime Michael Jordan, you know, the last dance

[00:26:19] meme of, uh, I took that personally every time Charlotte North did something, Allie almost immediately came back down the field and did something herself. Um, but to, to your, to your kind of point, but again, before we started diving into more specific, uh, performances, a few things I thought watching this game, uh, yesterday I said, I thought it looked a little

[00:26:45] sloppy in a manner. I feel like that's a really harsh phrase, but it felt like new teams playing a new version of a game in a new league. Like it just felt like, like there were just kind of bugs that, that will need to be worked out today. I felt like the game started similarly in terms of

[00:27:05] scoring and output and stuff slowly, but it felt much more like, um, how do I want to phrase this? It felt more like, uh, teams that were kind of feeling each other out. It didn't feel sloppy per se so much as, you know, some goalies making some saves, some, some teams trying to figure out what

[00:27:30] was working versus what wasn't working. Um, it had a, even though it was similar in terms of probably pacing and scoring and stuff like that, it, it had a very, very different feel to it. Uh, so that was kind of my, my first thought about the game. This, the second thought that I had was that the, the WLL

[00:27:53] sixes, I think is my favorite version of sixes. I, you know, I, I feel free to disagree with that. Oh, excuse me. But there is, there's something about the game that, that just works for me on a level that the PLL version doesn't. The, the only thought I've had, and I've literally been thinking

[00:28:18] about this now for what two hours. So it's not like I've had a super long time to really like process this. The only thing that I could, could think of kind of in the immediate aftermath of this thought was that maybe it's because they're not missing an element of their game. If that makes sense, like, like the fact that, that the, you know, we talked about the archers and how many of

[00:28:46] their guys are defensive players and they're, I guess it's not exactly fair because a lot of them are, are short stick defensive midfielders, but, but there is no, there's no pole that's missing from the women's game. There's no, all of these girls, you know, can play defense. They can, I think that's an element that, that feels like it's missing a lot to me. And the PLL game is,

[00:29:10] is just playing defense and hopefully as the game grows and maybe becomes a little bit more of a specialty, you'll get more of that kind of like, kind of like an NBA all-star game. You know, nobody's playing defense a whole lot, but, but when you get into the regular season and this thing develops and stuff, guys come up with schemes and, you know, all kinds of stuff like that. So maybe,

[00:29:33] maybe it's just that, but, but yeah, watching it, I, I just love watching the, the WLLs version of sixes. It feels like the, the best version of sixes because, you know, it's a little bit faster than the international rules. It's, it's definitely got a higher talent level than, than the international level with apologies to a lot of international countries. Um, hopefully that that's not too big of a,

[00:30:02] of a thing to say, but, um, so yeah, with, with all of that, excuse me. And then the fact that, that these teams are, you know, not, like I said, not missing anything. I don't know if that's the reason, but that's the, that's the closest thing that I could come up with. Sure. And to me, it feels like since it's a little bit lower scoring, it feels like the goals matter a little bit more. Yes, absolutely. Um, you know, yeah, some people's complaint about basketball is okay. Well,

[00:30:30] you could just start by giving each team a hundred points and all right, here's five minutes go. Um, this, this, this feels a little bit more tactical. And, um, obviously we talked about it last night. I saw it again tonight. It's line changes. You've got an offense and a defense and you may have some kind of, kind of leaks over, but for the, for the large majority of it, you know, you're running

[00:30:54] three, four, sometimes all five girls off at one time and kind of replacing. Um, so it feels a little bit more for some reason, the defense seems to work a little bit better. I mean, I can't remember the girl's name, but the girl that was on Charlotte North down the stretch, um, the girl with, with the curly hair, I mean, she, she did very well on Charlotte down the stretch. And now that may be

[00:31:20] because they had, they, it felt to me like they had more, like the guard had more offensive possessions towards the end. And so Charlotte was kind of running on and off and, and, and maybe felt like she was a little bit tired towards the end. Um, but I mean, the defense works for them. I mean, and you know, in the beginning of the game, we, we got some more of those walling

[00:31:44] penalties, which did learn what that is now cannot be in the shooting space. If you are not on the, if you're not the on ball defender and you're not at, you know, within a stick of whoever you're, your guard, that is, that is a walling penalty. Learned that tonight. Thank you WLL for explaining that.

[00:32:10] Um, but yeah, so the, the defensive schemes seem to work a little bit better and, um, you know, it, it seems like they're playing a little bit more traditional offense where, you know, initiating from X is a little bit more emphasized. You know, the, the men do that a little bit too, but it doesn't seem like that is kind of the focal point of the men's game for the women. They're going to X very regularly more times than they don't. Um, and so it, you know, it's still a faster version of, you know, the traditional like

[00:32:40] college or international rules that you're used to seeing, but it's faster. It's, it's a great mix of, of both is, is I guess what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree. And, and before we, we move into the game and performances, I don't understand why the men don't use X as much. Uh, I, I understand there's some, some timing issues, you know, you have a shorter clock, it's harder to get someone back there, set

[00:33:09] it up. But the principle of why you do it in field lacrosse still, still is present here in terms of like getting defenders to turn their head and, and having to, to see ball and man, like a lot of those principles still exist. So I don't understand why the men don't do it. I actually heard someone in a, in a group chat that I'm in suggest that the, we

[00:33:37] essentially get rid of the space at X in sixes and push the, well, their, their suggestion was essentially to push the goals back. So you have more room in the midfield and, and just basically, I'm sure there would be some room. Cause I think they were talking about maybe pushing them back like seven goals. So you could still circle the crease, but, but there just wasn't a whole lot of space back there. Quite a run up. Right. Right. And I'm just,

[00:34:10] I don't, I don't, I don't agree with that one. I don't think you need more midfield space in this version. Um, and then two, I don't think you need to get rid of the X space, but I did understand at least the idea of like, you know, the men aren't using it, but I, I also noticed how, how frequently the women were going back to X and, and utilizing that

[00:34:38] space and trying to get people to turn. And, and again, it kind of all goes back into, I, I think part of the reason why I have enjoyed the WLL version of the sixes so much is because like you, like you said, there seems to be more kind of tactical game planning, um, thought processes. You talked about the palms clearly, clearly had an element, uh, had a thought process

[00:35:07] of, Hey, every time a shot goes up, whoever's farthest away from goal, start moving because it was such a thing. It was such a thing. And we can transition into kind of individual performances. It was such a thing that Taylor Moreno for the palms was the fourth leading scorer on the palms

[00:35:31] with three assists because she was just making saves launching it. And she, my goodness, she was hitting them in stride every single time down the field. I could not believe I compared to a prime Aaron Rogers, just launching it, hitting them right in stride and, and it leading to

[00:35:54] scoring opportunities, not necessarily a goal every single time, although frequent enough. Um, so, you know, I, I just, I, I think that they, they're, they're at least feels like there's a, there's a lot more visible tactical preparation thought processes. Um, again, I, I don't want to disparage the PLL and the coaching. I know there's coaching happening. I know there's game planning,

[00:36:23] but, but there definitely feels to be more of that at the WLO and that works for me. Yep. Um, so yeah, the, the, the big names here obviously were Ali Mascherani with six points on six goals. And obviously everyone is, is tuning in to see Charlotte North. She finished the game with five

[00:36:49] points on five goals. Uh, like I said, Ali Mascherani seemed to be thinking every time Charlotte nor does something I got, I have to match her. She was incredible. She had, she had that one that was nearly a two pointer. Um, she just ripped that thing. And I was like, which I don't know if you saw

[00:37:18] this learn tonight. There is no two point shot in the WLO. I think I saw your tweet about it. I, I, I, I, funnily enough, I was talking to, uh, the, the beat writer for the poems and mentioned like, I can't wait to see. I, I, I said, I think I said something along the lines of like,

[00:37:42] I need Ali to take that half a step back so that that's a two. Cause I w I want to see that. And they, they didn't say anything. They, they commented and, you know, we're like, Oh, like, Oh, that'd be cool. Um, and then it was actually Tari, uh, lax girl, Tarly, Tari who tweeted like literally while I was having that conversation separately, independent of that, that there was,

[00:38:08] that there is no two pointer in the WLO. And I was like, wait, what is that for real? And I went and looked and sure enough, like even on the diagrams of sixes that the WLO is posting, there's no two point line. Um, and she told me that she had asked when, when they posted those graphics and there was no two point line, she asked. And I was like, that doesn't make any sense. And she, and she said,

[00:38:32] and I'm sure this is the thought process that it is based on player safety. Sure. Um, which I think we can all understand. They don't wear the equipment that the men do. There is a higher priority for player safety for, for these ladies. But my, my question was, my point was Ali Mascherini was, was half a step from a two pointer. So it's clearly not discouraging those kinds of shots.

[00:39:01] And you still have shot space rules. You still have walling rules. You still have a lot of shot safety things implemented. So, so all you've really done is you, you haven't de-incentivized taking that distance shot. All you've done is just not rewarded the distance from which a player can

[00:39:25] shoot. So I don't love that rule. I would love to see them change it. Uh, cause I mean, the girls can shoot the lights out clearly. They were, they were doing it all night tonight, uh, between Charlotte North, uh, Ali Mascherini, uh, and Aaron Bay Bakes. Um,

[00:39:47] they were just shredding that, that net and, and knowing now that there's not a two point line in, in, in the women's game, I can see why they don't, they don't try to take anything. You know, I have been frustrated in, in the first game and the, in the second game, when there were, when there were two point shots to be taken, the girls didn't take them. They,

[00:40:17] they, they moved in. And now I understand why, like, what's the point I might as well, even, even half a step or, or, or a full step in, you know, I don't know. So anyway, uh, that was, that was interesting to learn. Like, like we've said, we're learning, we're learning the women's game. And that was, that was interesting to see, uh, the, probably the, one of the big, um,

[00:40:43] storylines of the game was the guard switching goalies at half. And I'm wondering what you, kind of made of that because I know the, the announcers kind of bumped on it at half when, when the change was made and we're kind of like, Oh, you know, I don't know that I would have done

[00:41:05] that because, uh, who was a Katie Glenn was in net in the first half and she seemed to be playing just fine. Well, yeah, no, there wasn't a need to pull her out. And in fact, uh, she technically outperforming, I mean, she had one less save, but had a higher save percentage. So, you know,

[00:41:33] it, it, excuse me, there was no need to pull her out. So I, I'm wondering what, what you made of that, that decision. Yeah. I think there is definitely something to be said about kind of being in the flow. I mean, there's, there's no replacing game speed. Um, so personally, I don't think I would have made that move. I think, I think she was playing great. Um, going back to kind of what we were talking about earlier, the, the, I can't remember the second girl that came in, but man,

[00:42:02] she hit somebody in stride tricking down the field too. I mean, it was gorgeous. Um, I thought kind of across the board between Taylor Moreno, uh, Katie Glenn and Rachel Hall was the one that came in in the second half for the guard. I thought the goalie play just across the board was, was very good. Obviously, uh, Taylor Moreno playing the whole game kind of, kind of took, took a lot of the notes. She ended with 11 saves. She actually had the same number

[00:42:32] of saves as Katie Glenn and Rachel Hall combined made, they all kind of combined for 11. Um, and she was at 42%, which is what Katie Glenn had been in. I thought all of them looked very good. Like, like we talked about, uh, with, with the men, they all made the saves you would expect them to make. And then I thought all three of them, again, Taylor Moreno probably makes a little more

[00:42:57] headlines because she played the whole game, had the opportunity to do it several times. I thought all three of them made, made at least one or two saves of like, Oh, like, Oh, that was impressive. Um, so, so in, in that aspect of kind of stealing one, um, you know, uh, just across the board, I couldn't say enough about the, the ladies in goal tonight on, uh, like I said, on both ends of

[00:43:23] the field, all three goalies involved in this game looks very good. Um, Taylor Moreno. I think 11 was the number from last night too. I think both goalies had 11 saves last night. So it must be just kind of like the magic number. Maybe whoever gets 12 is that's your winner. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. And, and, uh, Taylor Moreno definitely showed why she is a two-time

[00:43:47] AU champion, uh, for anyone who doesn't know, uh, AU worked a little bit differently. It was kind of like, um, like a redraft every week. Yeah. They redrafted every week. It was, it was kind of a backyard element in that sense of like, you, there were team captains every week and they, they got to pick their, their team every week. Uh, so you could be playing on, on different teams every week

[00:44:15] and, uh, each position was able to score points in, in, uh, a similar manner to how like fantasy, uh, sports would work. And then the, the player who amassed the most points throughout the season was the champion. There is no team champion, uh, in AU. So Taylor Moreno was the best player in AU,

[00:44:40] uh, athletes, unlimited lacrosse, uh, twice. Uh, I, I don't remember if I can't remember how many seasons they played. She was, she was twice. I want to say at a three, I think is what it was. Um, so, so clearly one of, if not the best player in the world for, for, uh, the last few years and looked, looked, looked every bit of it, uh, you know, maybe Ali Mascherini was, uh, was, was

[00:45:11] 1A1B. Yeah. Right. Right. 1A1B for sure. For sure. So, um, I, oh, I am trying to do two things at once right now. Uh, and that is not going well for me while I do this one second. Hold on. Okay. Just wanted to pull up the schedule because I realized I didn't write down what games are coming

[00:45:37] up tomorrow. Uh, other notable performances today. Uh, Sam Greyer's back, uh, actually outscored Charlotte North. She had seven points, two goals, five assists. Uh, and then Cassidy Weeks also had five points on five goals, uh, matching Charlotte North. I, what, what do you think

[00:46:00] the kind of overall prognosis for, for each of these teams is going forward as a reminder, just before you get into that, I should have mentioned this earlier. This was, I don't think we talked about the final score. The Palms won, uh, what was it? 13. Yes.

[00:46:21] 1615. The guard had the ball, fed it down to the crease to an open player with 30 seconds left. And she hit the crossbar, uh, and it bounced out and the Palms got it. Uh, that was Aldave, I believe was her name. Um, not that I want to shame her. It ha it happens. You

[00:46:49] know, we talked a little bit about Jackson moral, but you know, he, he is too good of a player to, to send it as far wide as he did hitting the post though. You know, you're the, you're in tight. You're trying to not hit the goalie in the chest, hit the post. Um, so all that to say that this game could have gone either way. I think it was very close. Sorry. Uh, with, in that context now, what are you seeing for these, these two teams moving

[00:47:14] forward? Yeah. I still think the guard have what it takes to, to get it done. Um, Charlotte North is just kind of that X factor there. Uh, loved what I saw from the Palms though. I think all four of those teams, it's like the PLO in the summer. I mean, any, any team can win on any given day. Uh, we've seen two, one goal games. I would bet a lot that is not going to be the last one goal game that we see in this, uh, in this champ series.

[00:47:42] So, uh, super excited to see kind of where these teams go next. I think they mentioned on the broadcast it's Maryland, Boston, uh, tomorrow. So big game, uh, for both of those teams, uh, obviously, you know, a win puts you at one and one and a loss puts you at Owen too, which is kind of a deep hole to dig out of. So. Yeah. Especially, especially

[00:48:06] when, when you're talking again about, about fourth place being out and, and first place being, being a buy. So. Yeah, absolutely. Um, yeah, I, I think, I think based on what we've seen, uh, again, kind of going back into the idea of the WLL being my favorite version of sixes, I'd say one game in all four teams have played.

[00:48:35] I, I don't, I don't have a team that, that looks, there's no Whipsnakes here. Uh, and, and I'd also say there's no, there's no 2023 Atlas or, or anything, you know, there, these four teams are all very, very tight. And, you know, I, I, if I had to pick a fourth place

[00:49:00] team right now, I'd probably say it's the charm, but if you told me that, you know, come Monday afternoon, they, they were going to be WL champions. I, I wouldn't be all that shocked. I mean, they, they've got the talent. I, I love, uh, Taylor Cummings, Dan Seglio. Uh, that's really hard for me to get used to saying, uh, as, as a coach, one of my favorite all time players. Like I,

[00:49:28] I don't think you'd be surprised if, if you told me Monday morning, the Whipsnakes were going to be championship series champions. Uh, I, I call you a liar flat out. So, uh, you know, all if it still feels like all four of these teams have a very, have a very good chance. Um, uh, I'm, I don't feel

[00:49:52] like my pick of the guard necessarily needs to change at this point. Um, so with that being said, let's, let's look forward to tomorrow. The first game is the Whipsnakes against the Cannons that is at 7 PM tomorrow night. Um, what do you have going into that game? Uh, let's just say Vegas is going to

[00:50:21] have a hard time setting the line on that game. Um, I can see, I mean, I feel like, you know, we, I think we had a three and a half point spread this past summer. Maybe I know we definitely had one, um, two summers ago. I remember it was Archer's Chrome. Um, um, and the archers covered the three and a half. Um,

[00:50:48] I mean, I think coach Holman is going to have those boys ready to go tomorrow. And I don't know, I don't know what Jim said. Jim's technique can say to that team to make them competitive. Um, I mean, it, it, they, they definitely don't have the defensive talent that the archers had to, I mean, they're going to play the same game plan where they're going to press the two, but, um, they don't have a guy that can go one-on-one

[00:51:16] with Asher. Um, unless you want to put Colin Heacock back there and you've gotten him, you know, some footwork or something kind of like there. So that's, I mean, I mean, I, I mean, nothing against Heacock. I'm just, I'm just talking about big on big, you know, they, they just don't have a guy. I mean, but Lucy will probably get that matchup. I think Asher is going to get his again. I think it's probably going to be more as a feeder,

[00:51:44] uh, tomorrow. So if I had to put a score projection on it, I'm going to go 20, five to 19 cannons. I like, I like the score prediction wrinkle. That's a, that's a nice one that we, I'm going to, I'm going to suggest that we keep doing that throughout the rest of the week. Um, cause that, cause that can be kind of, uh, I don't think anybody thinks the whip snakes are

[00:52:14] likely to have much of a shot in this game. So, so in that aspect, maybe the, the, uh, score prediction is a little bit more fun, uh, kind of thing. The, the one caveat I might give the whip snakes is they had a day of rest, a day of preparation for the cannons. I don't,

[00:52:37] I don't know if they practiced or not, but I'm quite sure that they were doing film study and stuff at, at the least they, they were preparing. They also, I'm sure watched the cannons play today. Um, the cannons aren't going to have a ton of time to, to get ready for the whips. Um, they're going to be

[00:53:00] a little bit more sore and tired. So I might be willing to suggest that it will be slightly closer, um, than it otherwise might have been. Although I would say that your 25 to 19 prediction feels right. Uh, like you said, I don't think they have, they don't have anyone that could,

[00:53:23] could match up with Asher. And even if they did, uh, they don't have anyone that can match up with Asher. And then also stop Marcus Holman star, stop Matt Campbell in the way that the archers did. Uh, I, I would expect to see a much better performance out of Colin cursed tomorrow. Uh,

[00:53:48] so yeah, I, like I said, I, I don't think many people at all will have any kind of hope for the whipsnakes. I, I, I'd venture to guess that even whipsnakes fans are not, excuse me, going to have much hope for the whipsnakes probably for the rest of this, this tournament.

[00:54:12] I'm you've seen all three other teams now. The whipsnakes just aren't on that level. So, so yeah, I, like you said, I think 20, 25 to 19 feels good. That was kind of my initial thought since you got it out first. I'll say, I'll say 27 to 21. So the same margin, but, uh,

[00:54:35] just slightly higher. Although saying that out loud now, I'm like, man, the whipsnakes getting a 21 points. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's saying Brad Smith's going to score probably seven or eight. Right. And then you, I mean, Rambo gets two or three again. And then TJ, I guess has a better game and puts a couple more in the back of the net, but I'm not, not sure where those other ones are

[00:55:02] coming from. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, you're right. Conrad, Conrad for sure. Okay. Yeah. Conrad, Conrad still 21 feels like a lot for them. They scored 22 against the archers in a scrimmage, in a scrimmage. Um, but yeah, then, uh, like you said, it, it sounds a lot. Okay. Okay. I'm going to amend. I'm going to amend fine. I'm locking this in. We'll say 26

[00:55:33] to 17. So a slightly bigger margin. Um, 17 just feels like, like a good kind of prediction for, for what the whips can score. Um, uh, again, I like, I like 25 to 19. I, that feels like dead on to me trying to be slightly different. Uh, I'll say I will lock it in at what did it, wait, what'd I

[00:55:57] say? 26, 17. Okay. So I'll lock it in at that. Um, in fact, I'm going to write it down real quick just so that I don't forget for tomorrow. And you said 25 to 19 and we can look at that tomorrow and see where we were moving on the last game of the evening tomorrow is once again, going to be the W W L L game. Why can't I say that? Why is that so tricky? Yeah. W L I've, you know, also it is I,

[00:56:27] uh, my wife and I are into wrestling. And so I say WWE a lot. And I think my brain wants to, uh, say WWL or something. So, uh, but the nine o'clock game tomorrow is the Maryland charm against the Boston guard. How are you seeing that game playing out? I'm seeing that one as a little bit more of a shootout. Um, I I'm seeing it within one or two. Uh, if I have to put a score prediction

[00:56:55] on it, I'm going to go, let's go 18, 16 guard. Okay. Okay. I, you know, we just, we just talked about how I don't think there is a huge margin between these four teams, but that if I had to

[00:57:20] put a team in last place, excuse me, after having seen the four teams play that the charm are probably that team, I'm not going to be super surprised to see the charm when tomorrow. Sure. But, but right now, right here, right now, it feels like the, the guard should have this game. Like you said,

[00:57:47] I'm, I imagine it's probably a fairly close game. Um, I think once again, I think 18, 16 feels really, really good. Um, in terms of where this game will likely end up and with the guard again, the one caveat here is the trauma have an extra day of rest. They have a day to prepare. They got

[00:58:12] to see the guard today and the guard are not going to have the same level of time to turn around and, and prepare for the charm. So again, I'm not going to be super surprised to see the charm when, but I I'm with you. I think I'm going to go guard. I think, I think Charlotte North is going to

[00:58:35] do Charlotte North things. Uh, I I'd like to see maybe they, they move forward with a goalie. I know, I know part of the argument with the two goalies was getting to see both of them in real game, meaningful games and kind of seeing for the long-term health of this team throughout this tournament, see who's got what, and then kind of make a decision that, that it won't necessarily

[00:59:04] always be one plays one half and one plays the other. Uh, so, uh, yeah, I'm going to go guard. as well. Uh, again, 18, 16 feels really good in order to be different. I will say, I'll say,

[00:59:27] I'll say 1918 guard. Um, uh, that might be a little bit high for a, for a total score based on what we've seen. Uh, from what I remember yesterday, it was something like 13, 16. It was a one goal game. It was like either 14, 13 or 13, 12. You're right. You're right. You're right. It was a one goal game.

[00:59:52] So yeah. So 1918 could be a little high. Um, I I'm thinking maybe just that everybody has a game under their belt and, and we'll come out maybe shooting a little bit better. So, uh, so, okay. Um, and we will, we will get out of here the same way we got out of here last night today, today, you know,

[01:00:16] I guess it's, uh, it is still currently February 12th, but you know, uh, February 13th ish today. Who is your champion and golden stick winner for the PLL and WLL? Yeah. I think I'm staying on the PLL. I was really encouraged by what I saw from Mac O'Keefe tonight. I think that archers team, the archers to me, from what I've seen are heading, maybe

[01:00:42] not head and shoulders, but ahead of everybody else defensively. Now we'll see what happens on the offensive end. Um, can they keep that pace up? But I do still like Mac O'Keefe. Uh, he's going to, I mean, he's going to hit another, like I said, I mean, if he had, you know, is a foot back on two of those shots, he has nine points instead of seven. So, uh, hopefully he'll dial that in, um, over the, I guess they have a day off tomorrow. So, you know, kind of get

[01:01:11] that, that feeling back. And then, um, yeah, I like, uh, I like their odds. And then, um, golly, I, I, I, I'm going to stay on, on the guard too. I think, no, I'm sorry. I'm going to go with Charlotte North still, um, winning the golden stick and losing to the charging.

[01:01:36] Um, so I don't know, I guess both of them have got some work to do now that they're both going to have to win, um, you know, pretty big. Uh, you know, they both have one loss now. So, um, it'll be interesting to see down the stretch. I can't do the math in my head. It's too late right now. So I'm still going to go charging over guard. Charlotte North wins the golden stick, but loses the end finals.

[01:02:01] Okay. And you didn't say it, uh, just now your pick for the PLL, uh, archers over. I think, I think, I think it's archers over Atlas. Uh, I think, I think Atlas has more ways to beat you than, than the cannons that cannons do. Um, you know, most of that offense runs

[01:02:26] through Asher and clearly you've seen tonight what forcing Asher to be a scorer as opposed to a feeder does to a team. And now teams have seen that. I mean, I guess on the Atlas, I mean, who do you have? You, I guess you got Comizio, I guess Kobe Smith maybe can handle that matchup. Um, um, yeah. Um, so nobody has a Bo Pedersen. That's for sure. They don't

[01:02:56] have the big athlete like that. I mean, they've got some, there's definitely obviously great athletes, but they're not that combination of size and speed. Um, kind of like Pedersen has. So, yeah. Cause Kobe's probably there. They're like defensive stalwart that you might normally would put on him, but he does, even he doesn't have that, that Bo Pedersen. I don't

[01:03:20] know that. I don't know about size, but the, the weight to, to go up against, to not be pushed off of his position by Asher Nolting, which is what Asher wants to do. So, um, yeah, no. Okay. All right. So Mac O'Keefe archers, Charlotte North and charging. Uh, it's a, it's a little early here. So probably not going to see much, much change obviously from either one of us. Um,

[01:03:51] I, I'm going to stick currently with Marcus Holman. I know, I know he's a little bit behind. Um, but you know, next game we start shutting down Asher Nolting or, or no, not shutting him down. Um, stop. Like, like we have said, the plan is make, make Asher Nolting a score. He starts becoming

[01:04:14] a feeder and that could easily go the other way with Marcus racking up goals. So there, there's nothing yet tomorrow could be, well, it's the Whipsnake. So maybe, so maybe it won't change too much tomorrow, but tomorrow could show something that, that maybe, uh, changes that. So I'm going to currently stick with, uh, Marcus Holman as the golden stick winner. Uh, I, I honestly don't

[01:04:42] remember what I said. I think I said cannons yesterday. Uh, I, I am not going to change yet. Um, but after today, um, I'm, I'm swaying pretty heavily towards that, that archers roster. Again, I think it's a little early to, to, to change just yet. Uh, all, everybody's played one game,

[01:05:08] but everyone's only played one game. So, uh, tomorrow and, and, and again, the day after that, when, when, once everyone's played two games and, and we can see that, that the archers wasn't just one game again, you know, they just matched up well against the cannons and it, that is who they actually are. Uh, it's probably going to switch to the archers. Uh, again, I'm probably, I'm not

[01:05:34] going to change. I went, I went Charlotte North and guard. I think I went double, double, uh, for, for both the WLL and PLL. Uh, so, uh, again, not, I haven't seen enough to change my mind. Although, I mean, Mascherani, uh, looks very, very good money for the golden stick. Uh, and then,

[01:06:01] and then, you know, obviously the guard losing today puts a little bit of a damper on their odds to win. But, but like we said, all four of these teams look capable of, of getting the job done. So again, I think it's too early for me to really shift though. Again, that, that Palms team, that Palms team looks good. And I'm going to be really interested to see the, the Palms play the

[01:06:26] charging, uh, whatever that is the next day, the following day, all my days, all my days are getting confused with when we're recording, when we're releasing. Yes. Friday, uh, Palms charging is going to be probably the key game. And that's when Friday is when I will probably change things that are going to, that are going to change. So yeah. Well, and that's Archer's Atlas too. So we'll really

[01:06:51] know. Yeah. We'll have a really good idea of where teams are come Friday for sure. Well, and the big thing about it too, is all it takes is one misstep on, uh, I mean, you know, if you, if you lose a macro key for you, lose an Asher, it's, there's not a guy out of a player pool that that's going to come in and replace a guy like that. Yeah. Yeah. Which, which was kind of the fun

[01:07:18] for me of, of doing this of like every day. Okay. Today, this is where I'm at. Obviously by the time the championship series comes around, you're going to be one, one big performer. You're basically predicting who the big performer of the championship series is going to be. Uh, but, but like you said, you know, if, if the archers have the day off tomorrow, if Mac O'Keefe goes down and practice

[01:07:44] tomorrow, obviously that's going to change everything, not just Mac O'Keefe's golden stick odds. It's going to change the archers odds. If, you know, if Liam Intamin goes down, you know, that completely changes everything. But then also there's, there's kind of the, the microcosm of the, the game within the game. And, and yeah, you know, Marcus, Marcus Holman only had five points today,

[01:08:09] but tomorrow he may, he may have the Asher and Olten game. He may drop eight points. So I don't know, that was kind of the, the, the fun of it. And we'll see, we'll see how things change and evolve, uh, as, as we progress before we get out of here. Any, anything else from you on your end? I think, well, I think it's important to note too, on the golden stick, it's scoring points. It's not

[01:08:33] points. Yes. Yes. Um, and so, you know, if Asher just go straight feed mode, then that kind of takes him out of the, out of the running. Obviously I'm sure he doesn't care. Um, you know, he, he'd rather have the team win the trophy, but, um, that is something to keep kind of keep in mind. Um, so it is a little easier to bet on, you know, somebody that's just a shooter, like, like a macro key for a Marcus Holman. So, yeah. Um, for sure.

[01:09:02] Well, yeah, sure. Great being with you and, uh, looking forward to the rest of it. Yeah, man, I'm, I'm, I'm amped for tomorrow. Uh, you know, that, uh, PLL games, not the most enticing thing on, on paper. Hopefully we get a better game, um, than we, than we think we are. But, uh, I think Tom guard is going to be a good game. And then, and then, yeah, Friday, Friday is going to be the day. So, uh, plans aren't, aren't too busy where

[01:09:29] you can't flip the phone up and, and, and checking on it a little bit. I was just thinking that of course, Friday is like the day and it's the day that I am most likely to miss. Like I said, I'm, I'm hoping to get something out. Uh, but yeah, yeah. Those games look so enticing and I'm, I'm almost definitely going to have to watch them. You know, if it's, if it's 10 AM Saturday

[01:09:57] morning, me by myself on the couch, like that, that might be what it is, but, but yeah, those, those Friday games, especially, especially after seeing today's games, those, those are going to be kind of the, the anticipated matchups. Um, and, and then being Friday night, hopefully my hope is that we get, we get really good crowds. Uh, I know the weather has, has affected things as well as, uh, you know, I, I looked, my wife was actually sitting on the couch with me, uh, while we were eating at

[01:10:25] the, when the, um, WLL game started and I realized there's, I mean, there were all those, those young school age girls and I'm like, you know, it's nine 30 on a school night. Like what are you guys doing? Um, so hopefully Friday and then, and then Saturday on through the weekend, uh, we can get, we can get some really good crowds out there. There have been some really good crowds at the St. James in past years. So I think it'll be so much fun, uh, you know, for those Friday night games,

[01:10:54] big kind of marquee matchups on a Friday night. Um, you know, we talked, we talked a little bit yesterday about the scheduling and how it felt a little funky the way it started. But, but now you look at that front, those Friday night matchups and it's like, all right, they knew what they were doing. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, that will be it for us today on the, on gold rush. We will,

[01:11:19] uh, catch you guys tomorrow after the games and have fun play lacrosse. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a good, I don't have a better sign off than that. We'll have to come up with something before we, before we end.